Aulia-e-hind.com

Discussion Forum => Controversial Questions => Topic started by: Kabir Das on July 31, 2010, 12:02:14 PM



Title: O prophet...“Say, I am a man like you”.. So the prophet was just a man like us ?
Post by: Kabir Das on July 31, 2010, 12:02:14 PM
Dear brothers..
when the Koran says to the prophet..“Say, I am a man like you”
Then why do you people argue that the Prophet was not a man like us..?


Title: Re: O prophet...“Say, I am a man like you”.. So the prophet was just a man like us ?
Post by: Talib-E-ILM on July 31, 2010, 12:11:11 PM
Aauzo Billaahi Minash Shaitaan Nir Rajim
Bismillaah Hir Rehman Nir Rahim ;  Allah - Beginning With The Name Of - The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful.
Allahumma Salli Alaa Sayideena Muhammad Wa Alaa Aalihi Wa Sahbihi Wa Sallim.

So many times on the forum this has been answered..but we will answer it again not problems..u ask us 100 times we will answer 100 times..Insha Allah..

Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) is a matchless personality whose reality only Allah
Ta'ala knows. We will never be able to comprehend what his true status and power is. However,
we must make sure that we never utter words, which to us might not seem insulting due to our
lack of understanding, but in reality would be an insult to Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi
Wasallam).

The Prophets generally presented themselves as ordinary men so that we may know how to live
our lives properly. If they simply acted on their knowledge without explaining anything (the way
Hazrat Khidr (Alaihis Salaam) did with Hazrat Moosa (Alaihis Salaam)), what would we have
learnt?

If Allah Ta'ala were to send an angel instead of a man, then the followers would have legitimate
reasons not to follow his example. They could claim that angels are made from divine light and
are immune from sins, and therefore using them as a role model is impossible. Hence, Allah
ensured that all Prophets and Messengers were men so the disbelievers would have no reason not
to follow them.

Some misguided people refer to the verse “Say, I am a man like you” to argue that Rasoolullah
(Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) was simply “a man just like us”
. There is a paramount difference
between Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) saying it and others saying it. Firstly, by using
the command “say” it is hinted that in terms of expressing humility only you Oh Beloved Prophet
(Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) can call yourself human, no one else has the permission to call you
in this way.

For example, if a king says to his subjects that I am your servant, he does so out of
humility, but if one of his subjects tells him, “you are my servant”, the same words becomes an
insult and he becomes worthy of punishment in the court of the king. The same principle applies
to referring to Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) as a man. When the Holy Prophet
(Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) himself said that he is a man, then this is seen in a virtuous manner.
But if someone else calls him a man, it becomes a form of disrespect.


Title: Re: O prophet...“Say, I am a man like you”.. So the prophet was just a man like us ?
Post by: Talib-E-ILM on July 31, 2010, 12:11:24 PM
Allah Ta'ala states in the Holy Qur’an, “Make not the summoning of the Messenger amongst
yourselves, like one calls the other amongst you.” [Surah 24, Verse 63] If Rasoolullah (Sallallahu
Alaihi Wasallam) was “just like us” then why did Almighty Allah prohibit us from summoning
him like how we summon each other?

Secondly, the whole verse has to be read to fully understand what is being said. Allah Ta’ala says,
“Say, I am a man like you, I receive revelation that your God is one God, then whosoever hopes to
meet his Lord, he should do noble deeds and associate not any one in the worship of his Lord.
[Surah 18, Verse 110]. Do we receive revelations? No! So how can Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi
Wasallam) be like us?


Once, Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) started to keep continuous fasts, where he did not
eat anything for days. When the companions found out they began to do the same, but due to not
eating or drinking at all they became extremely weak after a few days. When Rasoolullah
(Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) heard about this he forbade the Companions from keeping such fasts
and asked them, “Ayyukum Misli?” (Who amongst you is like me?) [Bukhari Shareef ]


From this we firstly learn that if the Sahaabah, who are the highest in status after the Ambiya,
cannot be like Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam), how can anyone today claim that
Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) is just like us, and is like our big brother? Ma’azallah!
Secondly, let alone being like him, we cannot even fathom the true reality of Rasoolullah
(Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam). This is why Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) himself said,
“O Abu Bakr! Oath on He Who has sent me with the Truth, no one knows my reality besides
Allah.” [Mataali’ul Musarraat ]

Lastly, our beloved Rasool (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) proved in his perpetual fasting that he did
not have to eat to survive. But instead of him explaining to us all of the etiquettes of eating, he
simply ate himself and provided in this way a detailed, visual example for us to follow.
The Holy Qur’an says that the people of Hazrat Nuh (Alaihis Salaam) said to him, “We see you a
man like us” [Surah 11, Verse 27]. Obviously these people were not complementing but insulting
him and soon earned the wrath of Allah when the flood came.


This tells us that to call a Prophet an ordinary human being is a root to infidelity and a step
towards misguidance. This was the very cause of Shaitaan going astray because he only looked at
Hazrat Adam (Alaihis Salaam) as an ordinary human being. It should be remembered that the
word 'Bashr' (human being) in respect of the Prophet has either been used by Almighty Allah, the
Prophets themselves or the infidels. Thus the one who now refers to Rasoolullah (Sallallahu
Alaihi Wasallam) as “a man like us” is definitely not Allah, nor is he a Prophet, so he must be an
infidel. [Tafseer Noorul Irfaan]

The disbeliever’s in the time of Hazrat Saaleh (Alaihis Salaam) remarked “You are indeed a man
like us” [Surah 26, Verse 154].
Another group of disbeliever’s remarked “He is not but a man like
you, he eats of what you eat, and drinks what you drink” [Surah 23, Verse 33]. This tells us that to
regard the Prophets as humans like us and to assess them on just their eating and drinking
without understanding their hidden mystical nature, has been the work of the infidels from
earliest times. Abu Jahl did not become a Companion, but Hazrat Abu Bakr Siddiq (Radiallahu
Ta'ala Anh) did. Although both looked at Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam), Abu Jahl
looked at the human side of the Holy Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) while Hazrat Abu
Bakr Siddiq (Radiallahu Ta'ala Anh) saw the light enveloped under human form. [Tafseer Noorul
Irfaan]

It is important to understand that Allah Ta’ala speaks to His Beloveds the way He wants, and they
present themselves in His Court the way they want. Sinners like us have no right to speak about
the Prophets in the same way Allah Ta’ala speaks to them, just as how a person would not like his
children to speak to him in the same way he is spoken to by his elders.

We share our quality of humanity with the Prophets, but within that category, they and we are
worlds apart. Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) is a human unlike any other human, just
like how a diamond is a stone unlike any other stone. Even though he said he is a human, he is
one of a kind, unmatched and unparalleled, just like how a diamond is a stone, yet its
characteristics place it in a league of its own.

May Allah Ta’ala grant us the Taufeeq to have true love and utmost respect for our Beloved
Master, Muhammad Mustafa Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam, Ameen.


Title: Re: O prophet...“Say, I am a man like you”.. So the prophet was just a man like us ?
Post by: Zaara Khan on July 31, 2010, 12:35:17 PM
Very nice reply given brother..
Chand ko ungli ke Ishaare se Todo fir kehna k Rasool  sal-lal-lahu alai hi wa sallam hmaare jaise the...

Idiots are they who say that the prophets  sal-lal-lahu alai hi wa sallam was a man like us...


Title: Re: O prophet...“Say, I am a man like you”.. So the prophet was just a man like us ?
Post by: shabbirbijli on August 03, 2010, 04:21:26 PM
Very nicely explain & detail reply given by Janab : Imran Rahat Shaikh saheb

(From this we firstly learn that if the Sahaabah, who are the highest in status after the Ambiya,
cannot be like Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam), how can anyone today claim that
Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) is just like us, and is like our big brother? Ma’azallah!
Secondly, let alone being like him, we cannot even fathom the true reality of Rasoolullah
(Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam). This is why Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) himself said,
“O Abu Bakr! Oath on He Who has sent me with the Truth, no one knows my reality besides
Allah.” [Mataali’ul Musarraat ])
 JaazakAllah Khair.


Title: Re: O prophet...“Say, I am a man like you”.. So the prophet was just a man like us ?
Post by: Shah Darvesh on August 12, 2010, 12:13:48 AM
KYA KHOOB JAWAB DIA HAI............

SUBHANALLAH,,,,,,,,,,,,,

SUBHANALLAH,,,,,,,,,,,,,

SUBHANALLAH,,,,,,,,,,,,,


Title: Re: O prophet...“Say, I am a man like you”.. So the prophet was just a man like us ?
Post by: Shaik Muhammad on August 14, 2010, 09:39:51 AM
Yes, indeed true Quran says Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) is a man like us with two eyes, two ears and all the other things....

but it is his deeds and superiority near Allah, his prayings, his willingness to do anything anything Allah ordered even when the whole world is opposite to him, his kindness, his piety, his bravery, his generosity, his precedence over other prophets on the day of resurrection on behalf of us to whom only Allah permits to intercede, his perfectness of character even when around him there is evil things existed even before he is chosen as prophet,his trustworthiness, his night prayers, his fastings, his pure intentions behind every work for the sake of allah, his love for his umma, his treatment with slaves,his treatment with wives, his simple life even when he is the king of whole arabia, his gratefulness towards Allah, his endless duas,his treatment with animals,trees,  his unmatchable personality, his mercy towards even enemies, his thankfulness, his thinking, his planning, his fear of Allah ....  that are different from us.....


can any human being like us can ever reach this type of perfectness in any one type of his qualities?
that's why even the first prophet of Allah wished to born in his ummah....
that's why even Allah and angels sends salam on our beloved prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam)


yes, he indeed is a human...that's why I am proud that I am a human.....may be Allah also made to prostrate angels before a human because he knows that Muhammad Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) will born in these humans....


thanks to Allah that I am a human and I am a follower of Muhammad(Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam)


Still can any body think that he is a man like us....???? 


Title: Re: O prophet...“Say, I am a man like you”.. So the prophet was just a man like us ?
Post by: arsh1226 on August 14, 2010, 12:13:14 PM
THE BASIC LOGIC PEOPLE SHOULD UNDERSTAND ,..

CAN THEY BE EVER BECOME EQUAL TO THIER FATHER ????/

EVEN A PERSON BECOMES FATHER HIS FATHER BECOMES GRAND FATHER ,,,, TILL YOU DIE YOU CANNOT MATCH YOUR FATHER ,,,,

STOP COMPARING OR ARGUING ON HUZOOR E KAYINATH  ( SAW),,,,,,,

GHALTHI SAY BHI KUCH GHALATH SOAACH AGAYI   HUZOOR E KAYINATH  ( SAW) KAY MUKAAM KAY BHARAY MAI THO  APNAY IMAN SAY NIKHAL JOANGHAY ,,,,


Title: Re: O prophet...“Say, I am a man like you”.. So the prophet was just a man like us ?
Post by: Rizwan Maniar on August 29, 2010, 12:33:08 PM
Dear brothers..
when the Koran says to the prophet..“Say, I am a man like you”
Then why do you people argue that the Prophet was not a man like us..?


MashaAllah this question has been raised time and again by people who either do not understand how to understand Quran or wants to divide n deviate muslims from the real ISLAm.

Can u reply to this verse of Quran

[Ta-Ha 20:17] "And what is this in your right hand, O Moosa?"

Now what would U be saying that naudubillah Allah does know what Musa alaihis salam had in his right hand???

if U go by the literal meaning of Quran U r doomed n will go astray n in certain cases U may also move out from the fold of Islam. so plz. b careful before u interpretate any quranic verse.


Title: Re: O prophet...“Say, I am a man like you”.. So the prophet was just a man like us ?
Post by: benazir on September 14, 2010, 09:49:39 AM
jjazakallaah imran bhai for such a detailed explanation. its very true whO PROPHET MUHAMMAD(sallallaho alaihi wa sallam) was no one in the world can say except ALLAAH SUBHAAN WA TA'AALA. may ALLAAH SUBHAAN WA TA'AALA guide the miguided ones and fill their hearts with love for RASOOL ALLAAH(sallallaho alaihi wa sallam). aameen


Title: Re: O prophet...“Say, I am a man like you”.. So the prophet was just a man like us ?
Post by: arsh1226 on November 01, 2010, 06:05:37 PM
INNALAHI HO WOH MALAIYIKATU YA SALLU AN NABI YA HAYYU ALLAZINA AMUNA SALLU ALAIHI HOAN SALLU TASLIMA

]OH  YOU BELIVERS SEND DUROOD AND SALAM IN ABUDANCE , AS ALLAH  (ST) AND HIS ANGELS SEND DUROOD AND SALAM,,,,,

ALLAH (St) is mentioning in the Glorious Quran.ASK THIS PEOPLE WHO OUR HUZOOR E KAYINATH IS LIKE US (AUZBILLAH) DOES ALLAH SEND SALAM AND DUROOD TO EVERY ONE AND
WHEN ALLAH (ST) IS SEND ING DUROOD AND SALAM HE IS AN ORDINARY MAN??????????????????????????


THIS PEOPLE ARE TEH MISGUIDED ONES WHO ARE BLIND LIKE THE NON MUSLIMS......................


Title: Re: O prophet...“Say, I am a man like you”.. So the prophet was just a man like us ?
Post by: majidakberkhan on November 27, 2010, 08:14:53 PM
jazakallah


Title: Re: O prophet...“Say, I am a man like you”.. So the prophet was just a man like us ?
Post by: syedfayaz on January 18, 2011, 07:12:11 PM
JazakAllah khairen...


Title: Re: O prophet...“Say, I am a man like you”.. So the prophet was just a man like us ?
Post by: sufiFDneyazi on January 30, 2011, 08:59:17 PM
the UNIVERSAL HOLY PROPHET MUHAMMED IS NOOR-E-KHUDA i.e HOLY LIGHT OF the creator ALLAHHU & thus Universal holy Prophet Muhammed IS PRESENT IN FORM OF NOOR:ref AN-NOOR frm book quran


Title: Re: O prophet...“Say, I am a man like you”.. So the prophet was just a man like us ?
Post by: mash on January 30, 2011, 09:07:33 PM
Brilliant reply congratulations Br Imran, may ALLAH reward you abundantly for this act, as it is extremely critical to keep misconceptions out of Islam.

This explanation is so precise and clear, that I cannot imagine it any more clearer or complete.

Jazak Allah once again


Title: Re: O prophet...“Say, I am a man like you”.. So the prophet was just a man like us ?
Post by: hanifs on April 16, 2011, 01:05:28 PM
Aauzo Billaahi Minash Shaitaan Nir Rajim
Bismillaah Hir Rehman Nir Rahim ;  Allah - Beginning With The Name Of - The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful.
Allahumma Salli Alaa Sayideena Muhammad Wa Alaa Aalihi Wa Sahbihi Wa Sallim.

I Would Also Like to Add Some Thing to the Reply,

1) When HAZRAT JIBRAEEL Alaihis Salaam Came to Hazrat Maryam Alaihis Salaam he came as Human..

2) Hazrat Dahya Kalbi Razi Allaho Anho aisay Sahabi thay jo jab bhe Sarkar e Do Alam Sallallaho Alaihay Wasallam main haazir hotay to Hasnain Kareemain - Hazrat Syedna Imam e Hasan Razi Allaho Anho aur Imam e Aali Maqam Hazrat Syedna Hussain Razi Allaho Anho k liye koyee na koyee cheez (tuhfa) zaroor latay sirf is soch pay k Huzoor Nabi e Kareem apnay donon Shahzadon say buhut piyaar kartay thay

Aik Dafa aisa huwa k Hazrat Jibraeel Alaihay Salaam, Hazrat Dahya Kalbi Razi Allaho Anho k roop main tashreef laye to Hasnain Kareemain yeh samajhay k Hazrat Dahya Kalbi Razi Allaho Anho tashreef laye hain to foran bhag kar aap k paas tashreef laye aur aapki goud main aagaye aur khelnay lagay to Huzoor Nabi e Kareem Sallallaho Alaihay Wasallam nay jab apni Nigah e Nabuwwat say yeh dekha k woh darhaqeeqat Hazrat Jibraeel Alaihay Salaam hain to Hasnain Kareemain say farmaya k aisa na karo (be adabi na hojaye) - Hasnain Kareemain nay phir bhe unhain na chora aur famraya k aaj aap kiya laaye hain hamaray liye to Hazrat Jibraeel Razi Allaho Anho foran Rab Taala ki bargah main haazir huwe aur donon Shahzadon k liye cheez ki darkhwast kar farmaya k agar ijazat ho to donon k liye Jannat say kuch lay jaon to ijazat mili aur phir Hazrat Jibraeel Alaihay Salaam Jannat say kuch saib (apple) laykar Hasnain Kareemain k paas aaye aur unko woh fruit ata kiye to Huzoor Nabi e Kareem Sallallaho Alaihay Wasallam nay donon Shahzadon say farmaya k jao aur ghar jakar isko khud bhe khao aur waldain ko bhe khilao - yeh jannat k baghaat k fruit hain

When Jibraeel Alaihay Salaam Can Come As human and you still dont call him Human.....

How can u Call Our  HOLY PROPHET MUHAMMED sallallahu alaihi wasallam as Human (AUZBILLAH) who is NOOR-E-KHUDA

YAA Allah Tere Habib ke Shaan me Agar Hum Se Koi Gustakhi Ho Gyai Ho to Hume Maaf Karde.... AAMEEN



Title: Re: O prophet...“Say, I am a man like you”.. So the prophet was just a man like us ?
Post by: saedfaruki on April 16, 2011, 04:51:55 PM
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
[/b]

نحمده و نصلئ علي ر سو له الكرئم
[/size][/size][/size]
Hadis-e-Qudsi
[/size][/u]

In Sahih Bukhari, there is a tradition on the authority of 'Ata' (Allah be pleased with him) which comprehends the majority of the noble traits of Character of the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him). Some of these find a mention in the Holy Quran also. The Hadis Qudsi is as following:

1.   O' Prophet! We have surely sent you a witness, a bringer of good tidings (for the obedient), a warner (for those who are astray) and a protector for the Ummis.

2.   You are my chosen servant and Apostle.

3.   I have named you the Trusting since you trust me in every matter.

4.   You are neither rough mannered, nor hard hearted.

5.   Nor do you uproar in the market place.

6.   You never requite evil for evil.

7.   But forgive and overlook (Meaning there by that you put in to practice the Quranic commandment: Requite evil with good)

8.   Allah will not give you death till He has brought your stray nation on the right path through you  (i.e  until they become true muslims by reciting the Kalimah: There is no diety but Allah and Muhammad is His Apostle)

9.   And has given light to the blind eyes of the unbelievers; and has opened their deaf ears and closed hearts.

In some traditions following additional merits have been mentioned.


10.   I will refine you with all that is noble.

11.   And endow you with every noble habit;

12.   And will make tranquility your attire and trait (like inner wearing clinging to the body).

13.   And piety your conscience

14.   And wisdom the substance of your thought and knowledge

15.   And truthfulness and sincerity your nature

16.   And forgiveness and good works your custom

17.   And justice your practice, truth your rule, righteousness your guide and forge the followers of Islam into a millat (community)

18.   Your name is Ahmad

19.   Through you I will show the people right path after deviation from it.

20.   And bestow knowledge and wisdom upon after them and their complete ignorance.

21.   Through you I will raise my creatures from the abysmal to the zenith of perfection

22.   Through you I will bestow loftiness on my creatures after they have been ignorant and unconscious of the truth

23.   Through you as their guide, I will enlarge the number of your followers which is now small

24.   Through you I will change their poverty and destitution into richness

25.   Through you I will create accord and harmony between antagonists, confused minds and disunited nations   AND

26.   Will make your Ummah the best Ummah for the guidance of mankind.

Sal lal laaho alaihi wa sallama wa alaa a’alehi  wa sahbihi ajma’een

                              (Madarij-un-Nubuwah)

Tu Ameer-e-Haram, Main Faqir-e-Ajam
Tu Kuja Man Kuja, Tu Kuja Man Kuja

Meri Khush Kismati Main Tera Ummati
Tu Jaza Main Raza, Tu Kuja Man Kuja.
Tu Kuja Man Kuja Tu Kuja Man Kuja!!!








Title: Re: O prophet...“Say, I am a man like you”.. So the prophet was just a man like us ?
Post by: Rizwan Maniar on April 25, 2011, 10:47:39 AM

Hadith E Qudsi

عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ قَالَ: قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ:
 " إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ قَالَ: مَنْ عَادَى لِي وَلِيًّا، فَقَدْ آذَنْتُهُ بِالْحَرْبِ، وَمَا تَقَرَّبَ إِلَيَّ عَبْدِي بِشَيْءٍ أَحَبَّ إِلَيَّ مِمَّا افْتَرَضْتُ عَلَيْهِ، وَمَا يَزَالُ عَبْدِي يَتَقَرَّبُ إِلَيَّ بِالنَّوَافِلِ حَتَّى أُحِبَّهُ، فَإِذَا أَحْبَبْتُهُ، كُنْتُ سَمْعَهُ الَّذِي يَسْمَعُ بِهِ، وَبَصَرَهُ الَّذِي يُبْصِرُ بِهِ، وَيَدَهُ الَّتِي يَبْطِشُ بِهَا، وَرِجْلَهُ الَّتِي يَمْشِي بِهَا، وَإِنْ سَأَلَنِي لَأُعْطِيَنَّهُ، وَلَئِنْ اسْتَعَاذَنِي لَأُعِيذَنَّهُ، وَمَا تَرَدَّدْتُ عَنْ شَيْءٍ أَنَا فَاعِلُهُ تَرَدُّدِي عَنْ نَفْسِ عَبْدِي الْمُؤْمِنِ، يَكْرَهُ الْمَوْتَ وَأَنَا أَكْرَهُ مَسَاءَتَهُ"

 رواه البخاري

On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said:

"Allah (mighty and sublime be He) said:

Whosoever shows enmity to someone devoted to Me, I shall be at war with him. My servant draws not near to Me with anything more loved by Me than the religious duties I have enjoined upon him, and My servant continues to draw near to Me with supererogatory works so that I shall love him. When I love him I am his hearing with which he hears, his seeing with which he sees, his hand with which he strikes and his foot with which he walks. Were he to ask [something] of Me, I would surely give it to him, and were he to ask Me for refuge, I would surely grant him it. I do not hesitate about anything as much as I hesitate about [seizing] the soul of My faithful servant: he hates death and I hate hurting him."

[Bukhari]