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« on: January 04, 2011, 08:57:01 AM »

assalaam  alaikum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakatuh.

 i know that niyaz is a gift. but one of my friend said that in quran chapter 6:162,  2:173 its been said that " He has forbidden for you only the carrion, and blood, and flesh of swine, and the animal that has been slaughtered while proclaiming the name of anyone other than Allah; so there is no sin on him who is compelled and does not eat out of desire, nor eats more than what is necessary; indeed Allah is Oft Forgiving, Most Merciful"(2:173).

Say (O dear Prophet Mohammed - peace and blessings be upon him), “I do not find in what is sent down to me any eatable prohibited to a consumer, except if it is carrion, or blood flowing from blood vessels, or the flesh of swine - for that is indeed foul, or the sin causing animal over which the name of any other than Allah is taken at the time of slaughtering; so for one compelled by circumstances, neither himself desiring nor eating more than necessary, indeed your Lord is Oft Forgiving, Most Merciful.”(6:145).

but no where i see that niyaz is not allowed. these verses are referred to the flesh and forbidden animals which are sacrificed in the name of others peoples so called god. she says that the niyaz offered at ajmer sharif is not preferable because it is cooked and distributed in the name of KHWAJA GARIB NAWAZ(raziyallaahu ta'aala anhu). so i want explanation not for me but for my friend. pls help                                                                                                                                                            

Secondly,can we eat prasad offered by hindus by saying "BISMILLAAH" before eating.                                                              
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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2011, 10:56:58 AM »

Dear sister lets look at the aayats you have quoted translation Kaznul Imaan (http://kgn786.com/kanzulimaan/000Start.htm)

[Ana`am 6:145] Say (O dear Prophet Mohammed - peace and blessings be upon him), “I do not find in what is sent down to me any eatable prohibited to a consumer, except if it is carrion, or blood flowing from blood vessels, or the flesh of swine - for that is indeed foul, or the sin causing animal over which the name of any other than Allah is taken at the time of slaughtering; so for one compelled by circumstances, neither himself desiring nor eating more than necessary, indeed your Lord is Oft Forgiving, Most Merciful.”

[Ana`am 6:146] And for the Jews We forbade all animals with claws; and forbade them the fat of oxen and sheep except which is on their backs or joined to their intestines or to the bone; We awarded this to them for their rebellion; and indeed, surely, We are truthful.

[Ana`am 6:162] Say, “Undoubtedly my prayers and my sacrifices, and my living and my dying are all for Allah, the Lord Of The Creation.”

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[Baqarah 2:173] He has forbidden for you only the carrion, and blood, and flesh of swine, and the animal that has been slaughtered while proclaiming the name of anyone other than Allah; so there is no sin on him who is compelled and does not eat out of desire, nor eats more than what is necessary; indeed Allah is Oft Forgiving, Most Merciful.

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Answer 1 : In the Above verses where does it say that we cannot do Nyaaz or Give Charity to benefit the deceased ? No one eats Blood, Swine...

Answer 2 : Secondly...it says anything on WHICH the name of anyone OTHER THAN ALLAH is taken is HARAAM..But do you know what is read in the NYAAZ ..?
Jab fateha ya niaaz dete hain to kya pda jaata hai aapko pta hai..?
Sureh Fateha, Sureh Ikhlaas, and other Surats from the QURAN..then how come that becomes Haraam and Shirk..

jab koi bhi Musalmaan Qasaai kisi jaanwar ko ziba karta hai to wo Bismillaah Hir Rehman Nir Rahim ;  Allah - Beginning With The Name Of - The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful. padkar hi karta hai...ALLAH ke naam se hi ZIBA hota hai har jaanwar.
ab uska swaab to aap kisi ko bhi pahonchaskte ho...

Qurbaani k jaanwar koto ziba karte waqt us aadmi ka naam pda jaata hai jiske naam se qurbaani ki gayee fir to Qurbaani Nyaaz se bhi bada shirk hogyee


Answer 3:
This is proven from Hadees that RasoolAllah  sal-lal-lahu alai hi wa sallam had food with the Sahibis he used to first keep the food in front of him then Read some quranic ayaats and then Distribute the Food to the Sahabis...

Jisse us khaane me Itni Barkat hoti thi ke Khaana Kam hone ke wajaud bhi sab ko pura pad jaata tha aur bach bhi jaata tha..

This Sunnat of RasoolAllah  sal-lal-lahu alai hi wa sallam is being copied when Sunni Muslims do Fateha.

Answer 4 : Some More Intelligent people Object to the saying that Yeh Khwaja Sahib ki Nyaaz hai...Yeh Gaus Paak ki Nyaaz hai... they claim that Is par GairAllah ka naam liya gya is liye yeh haraam hai..Arey bewakufon...Jab qurbaani ka Bakra laate ho tab nai kehte yeh..Salmaan sahab ka bakra hai..yeh Altaaf Sahab ka Bakra hai... Yeh Bakra me apne baap k naam par dunga..yeh apni maa ke naam par dunga...

to kya Qurbaani bhi hraaam hogyee....

Answer 5 : Imam Bukhari and Imam Muslim write that:

A man came to the Prophet Muhammad [May Allah bless Him and grant Him peace] and said ‘My mother has suddenly died and she did not leave any will, but I suspect that if she did that then she would have told me to give something to charity. Now if I offer something in charity on her behalf, will she get the reward?’Prophet Muhammad [May Allah bless Him and grant Him peace] said ‘Yes’. Then the man said that I make you, the Prophet, as my witness, that I offer my garden full of fruits to charity.

(Bukhari Muslim, Chapter Al-Wasiha)

Answer 6 :
If any misguided people says we do not eat by reciting people’s name but sacrifice it for allah"s cause he should answer what does it make him  to do aqiqa in the name of his/her"s child which is done particularly by ones child"s name; isn't haraam as allah says in the quran the food on which other than allah"s name is recited is prohibited.I have seen many people of firqaparast people doing this and many doing fatiha/coming to sunni ijtema at the end to eat niyaz,fatiha,tabbarruk etc.I have seen many of them giving fatiha even in miladun-nabi.but they do not believe in noor of rasulallah,believe him as hazir-nazir, believe in ikhtiar of prophet etc.they are neutral muslims.they are sailing in the sea with one leg in one boat and other in other boat.And at some point they will fell in the sea and die for their act and taste the punishment of hell.

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Secondly,can we eat prasad offered by hindus by saying "BISMILLAAH" before eating. - NO.. You cannot eat PRASAD offered by HINDUS.


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Is still you want more explanation please visit
http://www.correctislamicfaith.com/fatehaeisaalethawab.htm
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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2011, 11:26:18 AM »

More answers from Mufti saheb can be listened online. (Answers in Sound File)

1. Niaz khana jaiz he ya nai
http://mufti.faizaneattar.net/Answer.php?Q=27062

2. Kunde ki Nyaaz - assalamwalekum main sunni hu aur hum jab ghar main kunde ki niyaz karte hai to sawaal pucha jata hai ki kunde ki niyaz kyun karte hai plz aap mujhe detail me bataiye ki kunde ki niaz kyun karte hai,
http://mufti.faizaneattar.net/Answer.php?Q=21086

3. Mera swal hai k jab quran main soar ka ghost,behta lahoo,orALLAH k nam k alawa khana haram hai to hum jo niaz detay hai buzurgoon k naam ki kia wo sahi hain ya ghalat wazahat kijiay..
http://mufti.faizaneattar.net/Answer.php?Q=20657
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2011, 11:28:07 AM »

Masha Allah - really wonderful answer - m sure it will help our sister's question
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2011, 12:06:50 PM »

nice reply by brother imran.,,keep the good work bro.
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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2011, 12:20:57 PM »

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Secondly,can we eat prasad offered by hindus by saying "BISMILLAAH" before eating.

As per as what i know Prasad is term used by Hindus for food which they offer to there Gods..And as their Statues dont eat it...its distributed amongst the fellow hindus..

The Basic point which a Muslim or for that Matter any Human Being considers before consuming any food is that IS THE FOOD PAAK, IS IT HYGENIC...
And as far as my knowledge is concerned for Hindus Gao Mutr (Urine of Cow) is purest..and they clean their statues with it..
Also put it while preparing Prasad and other Godly Foods...

Also I have heard for Christians they consider the Blood of Lamb to be sacred..and even drink it....


So i guess your Conscious will tell whether its allowed or not...
As for me I will never EAT SUCH a thing...
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2011, 07:18:14 PM »

jazakallaah for all ur efforts.
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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2011, 08:12:17 PM »

Excellent Reply  Imran bhai  ....  Got to learn a lot from this post
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2011, 01:49:54 PM »

Sister benazir..
wo khaana jis par gairullah ka naam liya gya ho ziba k waqt wo khaana haraam hai

Masalan.. jo Hindu apne Mandir me Bali k liye jaanwar istemaal karte hain usko Maarte waqt wo bismillah nai padte wo haraam hai..
Gair Mulkon me jo Angrez machinon se jaanwar qatl karke gosht kaatte hain wo haraam hai..

JISE JHATKE KA GOSHT BHI KAHA JAATA HAI


ISILIYE Kehte hain ke jabbhi kisi gair muslim hotel me khaana khaao puch lo k yeh HALAAL gosht hai k nai..

Middle East, Eurpore, AMERICA har jagah gosht ke packets par likha hota hai HALAAL...
iska matlab hota hai k yeh ISLAMI Tarike se ziba kiya gya gosht hai..

Agar nai likha hoto usko khaana Haraam hai...

isiliye har musalmaan ki zimmedaari hai ke agar wo kisi bhi hotel me INDIA me ya INDIA k baahar khaana khaye to waiter se ya manager se poochle
ke kya yeh Gosht halaah ka hai ya nai...Aur Behtar hai k NON MUSLIM hotel me VEG hi khaana khaye..Aur NON VEG khaana hoto sirf MUSLIM hotel me khaye..


Nyaaz aur Fateha ka jaanwar bilkul islaami tarike se Bismillah ALLAH ke naam se hi ziba hota hai..sirf uska swaab buzurg ko pahonchaaya jaata hai
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