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« Reply #75 on: August 23, 2011, 02:40:57 PM »

to mazhar rehmani bhai
bhai aap ki likhi hue line paste kar raha hoon
ye bat Hazrat Maulana Shah Fazl-e-Rehman Gunjmuradabadi(rahmatullah alaih) ko kashf se pata chal gaye is par aap ne Ala Hazrat(rahmatullah alaih) se kaha ki han han jo adna harf gustaki(matlab ek dum mamuli se) Huzoor(Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam) ki bargah main kare bila shubha kafir hai.'
 

ab aap jawab de ki aap ke peer sahab to kahe ki sarkar ki bargah mein kisi ne agar ADNA si bhi tauhin ki to wo bila shuba kafir hai .
aur aap humien aapas mein mil ke rehne ki baat kar rahe hai . bhai din aur raat kaise mil sakte hai ?
aap keh rahe hai ki humein aapne peer ki batoon ko manna chahiya , to kya aap apne peer ki batoon ko bhool gaye .aapne 1 baar bhi mushfique se nahi kaha ki jo sarkar ki bargah mein adna si bhi tauhin kare to wo bila shubha kafir hai.
ye post mein gustakhiyaa isleye huee kyun ki aap log bait kar sara tamasha dekh rahe the . lekin haq baat keh na sake

are jab aap nahi chate ki is topic par aur bahes ho to pehle aapne aapna aqeedaa kyun nahi pesh kiya ? ke aap kya maante hai wahabi aur deobandi ko ?

aap bus ban kar sakte hai lekin hum logon ko yahan tak aap ne hi pohchaya hai .sab kuch jan kar bhi khamoshi ekhtiyar karna meri samajh ke bahar hai. yafir aapko ban karne main bada maza aata hai
are jab maine aap se sawaal kiya to aapne us ka kuch bhi jawaab nahi diya aur yaha kehrahe hai ke ban kar dunga

are aap log moderators hai  aap logon ko to ilm ka samundar hona chahiya taki kahi bhi koe sunniyat ke khilaf bole to aap use rok sake

bhai pehle mera jawaab dena fir mujhe chahe to ban kardena
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« Reply #76 on: August 23, 2011, 02:44:23 PM »

Bhai  ap bareli sharif phone karkey puch hi ley hazrat ne kufr ka fatwa nahi diya hai, haan unhone ne ye zaroor kaha hai ki Tahir ul Qadri ki harkaten kufr tak pahunch gaye hai, hazrat ne kahin bhi tahir ul qadri ko aylayena taur pey kafir nahi kaha hai.

Ab aur behas kareky faydaa nahi hai apke sawalaon ka jawab ye hai :

ki bila subah jo maslak Ala Hazrat(reh) hai beshaq wo buzargan e deen se alag firka nahi hai, sab ek hi manzil ke taraf kooch kar rachey hai bus rastey alag alag hai .mera matalb hai ki sabko ALLAH subhantala tak hi pahunchana hai  Huzoor Pak(sal lal laho tala alaihi wasalm) ki zaat e pak se hokey par har peer ne apne mureed ko rasta batlaya hai uspey chalkey wo wahan tak pahunchyga ap apne jagah sahi hai aur dusrey peer ke mureed apni jagah.

ab dusri sawal ka jawab main pehly hi dechuka hun bhai ki Ala Hazrat(reh) ki Mulakat Jab Hazrat Maulana Fazl-E-Rehman Gunjmuradabadi(reh) se hui thi tab hazrat ne unsey yahi bat kahi thi ki jo Bhi adna se adna gustakh-e-rasool(sal lal laho tala alaihi wasalm) hai wo bila subah kafir hai.

Apko ye pura wakya mere silsila-e-rehmani ke website aur rehmat wa neemat aur afzale rehmani ye do kitabon main miljayega.

Ab apke dono sawalo ke jawab de diye hai ab main guzarish karunga ki is topic pey ya aur koi topic pay jo ki unwanted behas ka shape le ley usey nahi laye jaye balki hum yahan Huzoor Pak (sal lal laho tala alaihi wasalm) ka ishq zyada se zyada logon ke dilo tak pahuch jaye ye missionlekar chal rahey hai, agar ap log koi contribution karna chaty hai to Hadees Pak aur iman afroz wakyat, naat ya mankabat in chezon se apne post ko asajaye taki log faizyaab hosakey.
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« Reply #77 on: August 23, 2011, 02:46:59 PM »

@sage akhtar  aap baatye musfiqe ne aise kaunse gustaki ki Huzoor Pak(sal lal laho tala alaihi wasalam) ke bargah main jo aap usey kafir keh rahy hai.
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« Reply #78 on: August 23, 2011, 02:50:53 PM »

aap bataye ki aap ahle bhabis ko kya mante hai ?
ise mein aap ka jawaab bhi maujood hai
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« Reply #79 on: August 23, 2011, 02:55:35 PM »

to mazhar rehmani bhai
" ki bila subah jo maslak Ala Hazrat hai beshaq wo buzargan e deen se alag firka nahi hai "
yehi hi baat jo aapne aaj kahe ise aapne pehle direct mushfique se kyun nahi kahi jab wo na jane maslke ala hazrat komkya kya keh rah tha ?
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« Reply #80 on: August 23, 2011, 02:58:59 PM »

Bhai  ap bareli sharif phone karkey puch hi ley hazrat ne kufr ka fatwa nahi diya hai, haan unhone ne ye zaroor kaha hai ki Tahir ul Qadri ki harkaten kufr tak pahunch gaye hai, hazrat ne kahin bhi tahir ul qadri ko aylayena taur pey kafir nahi kaha hai.

Ab aur behas kareky faydaa nahi hai apke sawalaon ka jawab ye hai :

ki bila subah jo maslak Ala Hazrat(reh) hai beshaq wo buzargan e deen se alag firka nahi hai, sab ek hi manzil ke taraf kooch kar rachey hai bus rastey alag alag hai .mera matalb hai ki sabko ALLAH subhantala tak hi pahunchana hai  Huzoor Pak(sal lal laho tala alaihi wasalm) ki zaat e pak se hokey par har peer ne apne mureed ko rasta batlaya hai uspey chalkey wo wahan tak pahunchyga ap apne jagah sahi hai aur dusrey peer ke mureed apni jagah.

ab dusri sawal ka jawab main pehly hi dechuka hun bhai ki Ala Hazrat(reh) ki Mulakat Jab Hazrat Maulana Fazl-E-Rehman Gunjmuradabadi(reh) se hui thi tab hazrat ne unsey yahi bat kahi thi ki jo Bhi adna se adna gustakh-e-rasool(sal lal laho tala alaihi wasalm) hai wo bila subah kafir hai.

Apko ye pura wakya mere silsila-e-rehmani ke website aur rehmat wa neemat aur afzale rehmani ye do kitabon main miljayega.

Ab apke dono sawalo ke jawab de diye hai ab main guzarish karunga ki is topic pey ya aur koi topic pay jo ki unwanted behas ka shape le ley usey nahi laye jaye balki hum yahan Huzoor Pak (sal lal laho tala alaihi wasalm) ka ishq zyada se zyada logon ke dilo tak pahuch jaye ye missionlekar chal rahey hai, agar ap log koi contribution karna chaty hai to Hadees Pak aur iman afroz wakyat, naat ya mankabat in chezon se apne post ko asajaye taki log faizyaab hosakey.

mazhar rehmani bhai
ye kaise ho sakta hai ke 1 peer to inko kafir kahe aur dusra peer inhe muslim ?
plz jaroor mujhe samjhae ye
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« Reply #81 on: August 23, 2011, 03:03:09 PM »

to mazhar rehmani bhai
aap ne mere sawaal ka jawaab nahi diya ki aap deobandi,tableegi,ahlekhabis ko kya mante hai ?
jawab saaf saaf de aap plzzzzzzzz
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« Reply #82 on: August 23, 2011, 04:43:27 PM »

to mazhar rehmani bhai
aap ne mere sawaal ka jawaab nahi diya ki aap deobandi,tableegi,ahlekhabis ko kya mante hai ?
jawab saaf saaf de aap plzzzzzzzz

bhai main apko pehly bhi samjha chuka hun ki par apkey samjh nahi aya pehly ye samjhye ki deobandi kaun hai, har wo shaksh jisne deoband main talim hasil ki hai wo deo bandi hai, jis tarah har shaksh hindustan main rehne wala hindustani hai ab ap musalman hai ya hindu ya christan ye bad ki baat hai pehly aap hindustani hai usi tarah bohat se ulema jo deoband se padh ke nilye wo deobandi hai par kya wo kafir hai ye kaise sabit hoga.

Jab tak koi shaksh gustakh-e-rasool na ho wo kafir nahi hai ab ummed karta hun apko samjh agaye hogi mere baat ab aap bila fazool ke behas nahi kareye to behtar hai aur baat rahi mushfiqe ko samjhne ki to us waqt main masroof tha apne officail kam main abhi jab phir se dekha post to pata chala ki baat bohat agey tak bhad gaye hai, ap kise ke aqeeday ke khilaf ungli uthane se behtar hai ki apne zahir wa baten ke taraf tawajoh dijye agar bateen sawar gaya to bohat se raaz samjh main ajaynge.

Ab is ke agey mujhey koi baat kise ko nahi samjhni na karni hai sab ne apne apne dallel de di hai ab kha makha apne baat ko sahi sabit na karne ke liye jado jahad band kardijye.
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« Reply #83 on: August 23, 2011, 05:29:46 PM »

to mazhar rehmani bhai
pehly ye samjhye ki deobandi kaun hai, har wo shaksh jisne deoband main talim hasil ki hai wo deo bandi hai, jis tarah har shaksh hindustan main rehne wala hindustani hai ab ap musalman hai ya hindu ya christan ye bad ki baat hai pehly aap hindustani hai usi tarah bohat se ulema jo deoband se padh ke nilye wo deobandi hai par kya wo kafir hai ye kaise sabit hoga.

Aap ka jawaab apne aap mein 1 misaal hai .[/color]

aap ye kaise sabit kar lete hai ke ye  shaks musalmaan hai ?
is murde ki namaze janaja padhna chahiye ? ( ho sakta hai us ka khatima emaan par nahi huaa ho
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ALLAH azzawajal humein emaan aur aafiyat ke saath madina sharief mein maut nasib farmaye
aamin ALLAHhumma aami .
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« Reply #84 on: August 23, 2011, 06:57:46 PM »

HuhHuh??Bhai  ap bareli sharif phone karkey puch hi ley hazrat ne kufr ka fatwa nahi diya hai, haan unhone ne ye zaroor kaha hai ki Tahir ul Qadri ki harkaten kufr tak pahunch gaye hai, hazrat ne kahin bhi tahir ul qadri ko aylayena taur pey kafir nahi kaha hai.
>>>>>>MAzhar rehamani sahab pehle to aap use tahirul padri manne se inkar kiya fir uske baad kafir ab jab aapko pata chal gaya ke vo hadee kufr tak hai to mene aapse guzarish ki thi ki aap ek post tayaar karke aapni rai pesh kare about tahirul padri chalo mai fatwa lane ki koshish to kar raha hu magar aap zara apni rai pesh kar dete to acha ho tha ku ki jo insan baddin,hade kufr tak pahouch gaya ho aapke ke fourm member use bade adab se tahirul qadri ke rahe hai aur mushafique ka to kya kehana usne to unke naam ke aage Rehmullh laga diya hai.agar aap apni rai pesh karte the to ye sab nahi hota aur tahir ko hi issue banakar in log keh rahe hai ki kisi ko kuch mat kaho sab sahi hai.
Ab bhi mai aap se guzarish krata hu ki ab to post tayyar kar lo.
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« Reply #85 on: August 23, 2011, 07:29:59 PM »

 Huh Huh ki bila subah jo maslak Ala Hazrat(reh) hai beshaq wo buzargan e deen se alag firka nahi hai, sab ek hi manzil ke taraf kooch kar rachey hai bus rastey alag alag hai .mera matalb hai ki sabko ALLAH subhantala tak hi pahunchana hai  Huzoor Pak(sal lal laho tala alaihi wasalm) ki zaat e pak se hokey par har peer ne apne mureed ko rasta batlaya hai uspey chalkey wo wahan tak pahunchyga ap apne jagah sahi hai aur dusrey peer ke mureed apni jagah.
>>>>>Bhai aap keh rahe ho ke maslake aala hazrat aur buzrgane din ke hi hai to zahir se baat hai ke chahe vo buzurgane din ka mane wala ho chahe shryat wala to jo maslake aalahazrat hai vo usi ka parokar hoga to ab aap bataiye ke maslake aalhazrat aur buzurogo ne kis kitab mai kaha ki gustake rasool ya uske sath rahene wale ke sath raho unhe muslaman jano.ye the meri pehle baat.
>>>>>Dusri baat ye ki jo hazrat (mushafique) ye keh rahe hai ki aapko maslake aalhazrat mubark aur hame buzrgane din mubark to aap mujhe aur akhtar bhai ko to baar baar samjha rahe ki discussion band kar do post band kar do zara ek baar to use boliye ke maslke aala hazrat aur buzurgane din ek hi hai.
>>>>>Aab aur ek baat ki vo baar baar keh raha hai ki agar moderators se ijazat mail jaye to inke maslak yane (maslake aalahazrat) ki kuch baat batauga jis se inke nazdik sab dargaho par haram kaam ho rahe hai.
Meri aap se guzarish hai agar aap use samjah nahi sakte to aap fir is mamle mai khuch na boliye hum khud use se baat karke mamala solve karlege.
 Huh  ???ab dusri sawal ka jawab main pehly hi dechuka hun bhai ki Ala Hazrat(reh) ki Mulakat Jab Hazrat Maulana Fazl-E-Rehman Gunjmuradabadi(reh) se hui thi tab hazrat ne unsey yahi bat kahi thi ki jo Bhi adna se adna gustakh-e-rasool(sal lal laho tala alaihi wasalm) hai wo bila subah kafir hai.
>>>>> Ye hi baat aap aur mustafique samjh le jo insan adna to nahi nabi ko mazallah apne jesa bashar samjhe kya vo kafir nahi aur kya vo hi aqaid par chalne wale ghumrah aur kafir nahi allah tala aapko samjh ki tofik de.
 Huh ???bhai main apko pehly bhi samjha chuka hun ki par apkey samjh nahi aya pehly ye samjhye ki deobandi kaun hai, har wo shaksh jisne deoband main talim hasil ki hai wo deo bandi hai, jis tarah har shaksh hindustan main rehne wala hindustani hai ab ap musalman hai ya hindu ya christan ye bad ki baat hai pehly aap hindustani hai usi tarah bohat se ulema jo deoband se padh ke nilye wo deobandi hai par kya wo kafir hai ye kaise sabit hoga.
>>>>>>Vo aise sabit hoga ki darool uloom devoband aur darool uloom nadwa mai jo kitabe padhi jate hai usme se ek kitab taqviutul iman ahi jo bagair padhe fazilat ki degree nahi di ja sakti is kitab mai kya likha hai vo to aapko pata hi hoga lekin fir bhi bata deta hu ki kitab mai likha hai ki Mazallah nabi markar mitte mai mil gaye ab aap bataye ye adna gustaki hai ya ise se upar.aur jo shaks ye kitab padhke nikla kya vo kafir nahi.usne waha nabi ke bare mai kya aqaid sikhe aur vo immamat mai logo ko kya vo hi aqaid nahi batyega.ab rahi is kitab ke bare mai Insha Allah mai fir koi post mai tafsil se batauga.
 Huh ???Ab is ke agey mujhey koi baat kise ko nahi samjhni na karni hai sab ne apne apne dallel de di hai ab kha makha apne baat ko sahi sabit na karne ke liye jado jahad band kardijye.
Nahi kehani to fir hame aapne haal par chod de.
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« Reply #86 on: August 23, 2011, 08:43:02 PM »

Huh ???bhai main apko pehly bhi samjha chuka hun ki par apkey samjh nahi aya pehly ye samjhye ki deobandi kaun hai, har wo shaksh jisne deoband main talim hasil ki hai wo deo bandi hai, jis tarah har shaksh hindustan main rehne wala hindustani hai ab ap musalman hai ya hindu ya christan ye bad ki baat hai pehly aap hindustani hai usi tarah bohat se ulema jo deoband se padh ke nilye wo deobandi hai par kya wo kafir hai ye kaise sabit hoga.
>>>>>>Vo aise sabit hoga ki darool uloom devoband aur darool uloom nadwa mai jo kitabe padhi jate hai usme se ek kitab taqviutul iman ahi jo bagair padhe fazilat ki degree nahi di ja sakti is kitab mai kya likha hai vo to aapko pata hi hoga lekin fir bhi bata deta hu ki kitab mai likha hai ki Mazallah nabi markar mitte mai mil gaye ab aap bataye ye adna gustaki hai ya ise se upar.aur jo shaks ye kitab padhke nikla kya vo kafir nahi.usne waha nabi ke bare mai kya aqaid sikhe aur vo immamat mai logo ko kya vo hi aqaid nahi batyega.ab rahi is kitab ke bare mai Insha Allah mai fir koi post mai tafsil se batauga.
Phir Abhi Ala Hadrat Alaihrahmah Ne Ismail Dehelvi Par KUFR Ka Fatwa Nahi Lagaya,
Aur Maine Iha Tak Suna Hain Ke Bahare Sharait Mein Bhi Use Kaafir Nahi Kaha Gaya (i m not sure but will confirm u)

Hum Sab Ke Liye Behtar Hoga Ke 1 Fresh Fatwa Huzoor Azhari Miya Se Le Le

JAB TAK IS TOPIC KO LOCK KAR DIYA JAYE
- Kyun Ke Bahut Khichdi Pak Chuki Hain 1 Topic Par Discuss hota To Theek Tha Magar Sab Topic isi Mein AA Gaye
 Jise Padkar Sirf Dimaag Fodi Hain Aur Kuch Nahi
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« Reply #87 on: August 23, 2011, 09:58:40 PM »

Ala Hadrat Alaihrahmah Jab Hajj Karne Gaye To Aapne Al Motamad Al Mustanad Likhi Use Aulema Haram Ko Di, Phir Use Padkar Aulema e Harmain Ne Fatwa Diya Use Ala Hadrat Alaihrahmah Ne Hussam al Harmain Kitaab Arbi Mein Likhi Phir Mufti Hashmat Ali khan Alaihrahma Ne Hussam al Harmain Indian Continent Ke 268 Jayyad Alimo Ke Paas Bheja Uspar Jawab Milne Par Wo Fatwe As Asawahirrul Hindiya Ke Naam Se Chhape

Yaad Rahe Ala Hadrat Alaihrahma Ne Ashraf Ali Thanvi Ko Kai Letter Likhe Use Moradabad Public Meeting Mein Bhi Bulaya Magar Wo Nahi Aaya - Aur KUFR Ka Fatwa Issue Karne Se Pehle Bhi Ala Hadrat Alaihrahmah Ne Deobnad Mein kai Letter Bheje Ke Wo Statement Explain Kare Aur Kufriyat Se Tauba Magar Kuch Reply Nahi Karne Par KUFR Ka Fatwa Dena Pada, Ala Hadrat Alaihrahma Ne 10 Saal Diye Ashraf Ali Thanvi Ko Ke Wo Apna Stand Bataye Tauba Kare

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« Reply #88 on: August 23, 2011, 10:10:20 PM »

Gustakhe E Rasool SalAllahu Alaihwasalam Ko To Kaafir Keh Sakte Hain,
Magar unka Kiya jinhe Kuch ILM Hi Nahi (Apni Lang Mein Unhe PILPILE SUNNI Kehte Hain) Kya Wo Bhi Kaafir Hain ? Kya Unke Sath JO Uthe Beththe Hain Kya Wo Bhi Kaafir Hain ? Apne Aap Ko Koi Deobnadi Wahabi Kehta Ho Magar Usne Kabhie Sarkar SalAllahu Alaihwasallam Ki Shaan Mein Gustakhiya Na Ki Ho Kya Wo Bhi Kaafir Hain ?

Humein Bahut Ahtiyat Karni Padegi Isliye Keh Raha Hoon, Huzoor Azhari Miya Aur Digar Leading Mufti Se Fresh Fatwa le le
Aur IS TOPIC KO LOCK KARE - Agar Kahin Bhi Hum Mein Se Kisi Se Galti Hui Ho To Ruzu Kare Tauba Kare 
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« Reply #89 on: August 23, 2011, 10:56:31 PM »

Bahi mai manta hu ki aala hazrat ne 10 saal baad fatwa diya magar ab jise fatwa diya aap to unhe kafir bhi nahi keh rahe ho to unke manne walo ki baat to dur hai.
aapko to urdu padhana nahi aati thi ab aapn urdu mai fatwa kaha se la liya aur mene jo fatwa diya hai zara vo bhi to padh lo zara.
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